This forum is full of discussion about the slow development, at times that is the dominant topic. It is also full of suggestions and counter-suggestions and arguments about how to speed things up or whether or not the developer is obliged to recruit help or create fewer images or compromise in any way.
...Stating the obvious it is SLOW.
The Awam fan page is more fun than the game
So I respect the producer of Awam. These comments may be bad, but they are the truth. I'm not saying I don't like the game. But I don't follow and get excited. I don't think you care about our comments anyway.
Nope, I guessed this mid of February: "atm we've ~30% after 1.5 months, so 4.5-5 months => not until June, I guess."
L&P has 1.6k patrons, DrPinkCake has 13.6k.L&P is more and more slower but he has more and more patrons. Masochism.
Sorry, but talk about “an artist who cares about quality, not money” ends when his patreon support drops by 10-20%.
I just wanted to say that although I love Awam, he is slow and drowning in detail. I am never as good an artist as he is. He's much more experienced
I'm just learning daz3d. When I learn, I realize that it is actually not that difficult. I apologize if I was disrespectful to the readers.
? Disrespectful? Don't see that at all. Agree that L&P is drowning in detail.I just wanted to say that although I love Awam, he is slow and drowning in detail. I am never as good an artist as he is. He's much more experienced
Couldn’t have said it better broL&P has 1.6k patrons, DrPinkCake has 13.6k.
DPC has launched chapter 6 and 7 already while L&P launched a third of a day in December.
DPC puts up teasers every week on his patreon and has 10 Patreon posts this month. L&P has 2.
DPC started April 2018, has 1 game completed, another more than halfway done and is on Steam. L&P started November 2017 and is on 30% of his first VN.
That 12k difference in terms of people means a lot of money but L&P doesn't seem to understand that he needs to take the first steps towards better engagement and development and then the money and patrons (which will reward him for his work) will come, but only after he takes those steps.
The quality of his renders and even the story alone tells me L&P should have many more patrons right now but he doesn't have his shit together so the 90%+ difference in patrons is expected.
Basically L&P should have at least 5/6k patrons based on the metrics here on f95 and the quality of his work. This topic is huge and has a ton of views. Major advertisement is done here because people end up supporting projects and devs they like.
The fact he has 1.6k while his game pulls record numbers here on site must tell him something is off.
580 renders used to be enough for 8 scenes, meaning an avg of 72 renders per scene was enough but now we have 200+ renders per scene.
The pace is starting to become very slow.
Regarding taking off the 1/3 of a day updates back to 1/2 a day, I don't agree. With the kind of slippage that occurs in his development in each version, you would be looking at a once per year release. At this point the only thing left to try is to either be reasonable and cut back on render nr (and possibly some story branches) or release per event.
L&P I know you read our posts so I'm leaving a question in case you want to answer:
Do you see yourself finishing this VN taking into account that it'll most likely end, at this pace, by 2035+?
Viper, you make good on interesting points on why L&P is under performing on Patreon vs others in that space... I agree, but I still don't think that is L&P's motivator. You absolutely address the biggest worry and concern. Is the game able to be completed and without burnout? You are asking L&P a direct question and hoping for solutions.L&P has 1.6k patrons, DrPinkCake has 13.6k.
DPC has launched chapter 6 and 7 already while L&P launched a third of a day in December.
DPC puts up teasers every week on his patreon and has 10 Patreon posts this month. L&P has 2.
DPC started April 2018, has 1 game completed, another more than halfway done and is on Steam. L&P started November 2017 and is on 30% of his first VN.
That 12k difference in terms of people means a lot of money but L&P doesn't seem to understand that he needs to take the first steps towards better engagement and development and then the money and patrons (which will reward him for his work) will come, but only after he takes those steps.
The quality of his renders and even the story alone tells me L&P should have many more patrons right now but he doesn't have his shit together so the 90%+ difference in patrons is expected.
Basically L&P should have at least 5/6k patrons based on the metrics here on f95 and the quality of his work. This topic is huge and has a ton of views. Major advertisement is done here because people end up supporting projects and devs they like.
The fact he has 1.6k while his game pulls record numbers here on site must tell him something is off.
580 renders used to be enough for 8 scenes, meaning an avg of 72 renders per scene was enough but now we have 200+ renders per scene.
The pace is starting to become very slow.
Regarding taking off the 1/3 of a day updates back to 1/2 a day, I don't agree. With the kind of slippage that occurs in his development in each version, you would be looking at a once per year release. At this point the only thing left to try is to either be reasonable and cut back on render nr (and possibly some story branches) or release per event.
L&P I know you read our posts so I'm leaving a question in case you want to answer:
Do you see yourself finishing this VN taking into account that it'll most likely end, at this pace, by 2035+?
We tried. He don't listen. Manpower, that's what he needs, and so does Sophia.
Didn't miss it. We are still being delayed by Dylan.
The dev reckoned that a round 400 renders for the whole update might be a good guess.
Lately, it seemed to me that L&P was doing a little report on each end of the event that makes up the update.
